morici, the new le elely electe president of egypt, is in the muslim brothers. the muslim brothers and hamas are directly related. this is about egypt and the 1979 peace treaty. >> right. i'm going to get back to the whole issue of the spreading war. but i'm just real interested in the assessment, ambassador williamson, welcome back, that israel can just inflict massive, permanent damage on hamas and their alleged military. >> well, larry, first of all, i think it's really important to take a step back. we've been involved in a presidential election that sucked up the oxygen. hamas is a group that's recognized as a terrorist organization by the u.s. government, the israeli government and the european union, has increased shelling in areas of israel over recent weeks. they now have shelled tel aviv and 180 missiles went into southern israel. so israel for its own self-defense, its right of self-defense is organizing, rallying more reserve troops, getting ready for more permanent action. it can and should do what's necessary to protect its citizens, which means in